Game Theory: Did Dream FAKE His Speedrun? A Final Analysis.
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There has been a controversy brewing on the Minecraft side of GRglo centered around well known Minecraft creator Dream. He's been accused of faking his speedrun and it has caused a lot of stir. I'm not here to point fingers or accuse anyone. What I'm doing today, Theorists, is going over the facts of this situation and why it is a lot more complicated than people are making it out to be.
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"Did dream cheat his speedrun?" That only dream fan : *clicks out of video*
Before Reveal: 10 = 7 heads Answer Reveal: IM CORECT!!! :D
We: did dream cheat? MatPat: Well yes, but actually no
60
I saw someone beat minecraft in 4:24 minutes
Me: being that one 8 year old kid bad at math but likes game theory lol
Flip 10 and get 7+heads
although there are 10-37 major factors involved, it seems that "the thing that makes minecraft 1.16 speedruns 5 minutes faster than previous versions is the piglin trading, it's basically a slot machine". so if one were to cheat at this game, do you think they would change those rates? and change the rates of "one of the biggest bottlenecks in any minecraft speedrun"?
Kobe is Children
Πριν 4 ώρες
and don't you think that Kobe is children? cause he is
NEW THEORY FOR MINECRAFT What is bedrock made of
YT theory: Matpat inetially had an awnser, but the awnser was that Dream did cheat. However, since Dream has already collabed on Game Theory, Matpat didn't want to ruin his future chances with Dream's clout (attacking someone on the internet who has more clout then you is a death sentance). But since he didn't want to throw away hours of research, he made a video that never gave a diffinitive awnser.
But with the stupid barter,I barted with more than 280 gold,u know how much I got? 5 pearls,5 PEARLS, if u are thinking how I got that much, I had a Mesa near my village
I have got more than that much blaze rods so does that mean I cheated? No it's just luck And looting 😂
Stand-up maths did a video that actually answers the question... 🙏🏽
This is worst then mrbossftw’s video’s
When he was talking about flipping coins I did not get any of that lol
8:32 my aswer is (a)
idk that questiopn
Why tf do people even care he’s not even first he’s sixth , people only care because it’s dream
morbideddie
Πριν 3 ώρες
Exactly, any other runner and their run would have just been quietly removed and they would have been suspended from posting. Because it’s dream we have to keep talking about it because he won’t let it go and his stans don’t understand maths.
im gonna tell my math teacher to find out if he was cheating
"when they bust out latex, you know its serious" thats what she said im sorry i had to
I want to matt to be my mentor like om not joking
10 and getting heads 7 times
Dream Speedrunner *exists* The Game Theorists: Dream the Game *Exists*
Here's an actual answer to this question by Matt Parker from StandUp Maths: grglo.info/project/m33UbIjIgNtjjI0/b-nteo Bonus: it doesn't have the ridiculous bragging about understanding a bunch of math that he clearly doesn't understand at all.
How can some people in this comment section be so ignorant as still think that dream definitively cheated. Matpat’s argument is that the chance of Dream’s drop rates is subjective, which is clearly evident by the different methodologies of the “Particle Physicist” and the mod team. The definitive answer to whether he cheated or not is obtainable only in a perfect world. The best solution would be to support the number of factors (why is it 10 vs 37?), and then to select data from every single recorded instance of Dream’s speed running attempts. Both sides did none of this, and both were biased, and used “true” but misleading statistics. Statistics may be right on a graph, but when applied to a topic, are misleading. For example, “4/5 dentists recommend Colgate”. It may be true, but perhaps those same 5 dentists all recommended Sensodyne. The original statement isn’t false, but it is misleading you to buy the less recommended brand, when obviously Sensodyne was recommended more. Conclusion: Statistics are often biased and used to lie to people, and Pat’s video is saying the ways you can come to a conclusion (and also how both sides did) is not truly representing the entire picture.
matpat is like you when you're asked "would you save your mom or dad?"
2:11 oh god no not latex
This was decidedly a YES to anyone who really understood the data, but a "...maybe no??" to Dream stans. I understand, PatPat, but if you ain't finna answer the question yourself, you shouldn't finna ask the question in your title. Title it something like "An in depth analysis on the Dream situation" or something.
If he is better than you in minecraft it doesn't mean you should make fake videos about him
Little did future Matpat know was that the argument continued more on the down low
this video is so infuriating to watch for so many reasons - too many unnecessary tangents - no real conclusion/answer to the actual title question, hence just pure clickbait - flexing that you share some business with LE DREAM, i guess he is somebody to gloat about - this was basically the longest loudest loading screen for an (skillshare) ad - claiming this video is supposed to be educating about the maths, in the end only explaining the theory of it in a very weird and hard to understand way - the finishing verdict. "minecraft 1.16+ shouldnt be getting speedruns anymore cause too high dependence on luck :c"
This is last year's drama mat
60 is harder than 7 :)
I think we all forget what kind of channel Matpat has, he is a Theorist. Yes, he is a good theorist but everybody isn’t always right. Maybe he did cheat, maybe he did not. Your all in the comments talking about how he dodged the question but really he’s literally just doing what he normally does. Yet you don’t say this when he makes different themes such as FNAF and other DDLC? Yet nobody from these games have stood up to things such as this? Why say all of this now because it’s a GRglor and not a game of which you can’t say to somebody’s face? Yes, it is basically click bait but what isn’t? My god people it’s 2021, click bait is everywhere right under your noses! Not even just on youtube and even I think you know that. Go ahead, comment down how wrong I am but you can’t deny that this is suspicious and seems acted. Yeah, he might be right but he isn’t a mind reader, the only person who knows whether they cheated or not is Dream. I wonder why it’s always the GRglor’s fault and not the game/game developers? 1.16 just came out when this event took place so their is bound to be bugs. But that still doesn’t mean Dream is off the hook and neither is MatPat. But remember, at the end of the day it’s just a theory everybody. :) (Please debate about this in the comments, I wanna see all of opinions on this :D)
This channel helped me learn more than my class lol
8:36 THEY"RE BOTH THE SAME! HA! Sorry so many comments. I'll do less next time
1:46 Warzone... huh? Have you heard of... 2b2t?
No
conclusion: the speedrunning team is jealous
morbideddie
Πριν 3 ώρες
Yes Stanley, they were jealous of his 14th place run.
Hayden Y
Πριν ημέρα
Lol
Pls he would be such a cool and good teacher
Hayden Y
Πριν ημέρα
Yea
7 times
Matpat is such a wuss the only reason he won’t say he is cheating is because he is scared to lose his kid subscribers but don’t you see Matpat your subscribers have now grown up dot. Be afraid to say he cheated
Mat pls tell me pls!
I can smell the dream stan dislike this video.
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Brandon Morehouse
Πριν ημέρα
I would like to say the youtube comments are not the beat place for this kind of a statement
Ppl are knocking matpat for not really answering, but he did give a more complex view of both arguments, and I don’t think that’s nothing.
my view I don't think he cheated he clearly got a higher drop rate then normal but odds are just odds. The drop rate for endermen dropping ender pearls is around 50% of course that doesn't mean you're going to consistently drop 5 ender pearls for every 10 endermen its possible to kill 1000 endermen and them drop no enderpearl just its very very unlikely I dont know the probability percentage i imagine its extremely low but still not impossible.
When he started talking about the luck of the item drops, I just thought "so no one here has played a gacha game then" because the luck I've seen some people have by accident is ridiculous, versus some people who whale on them and don't get nearly as lucky (hence the whaling)
Mans pulled a Ranboo and didn't choose sides
2:21 relatable ;-;
Ah yes, clickbait
Brandon Morehouse
Πριν ημέρα
Well yes but actually no
I thought condoms when u said latex, but i noticed the quadratic formula short after 😂. What am i?
So everyone's hating matpat here because he doesnt know something? Makes sense
So... He did? Because any Dream stans that disagree better bend over.
help me with me math pls
İmagine dream commenting
I think 100 times
The real problem is that profesional mathmeticians and scientists can spend hours of time just to debunk a minecraft speedrun... Do they really not have anything better to do with their life??
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Some people took this video the wrong way bc there are quite a lot of dislikes
Its funny bc they're talking about high luck but there was a game my dad played and literally got a 0.01% chance weapon 5 time in a row (DFFOO)
Awsome
Sir, I seem to be missing an answer in this video
Coin ten times
for anyone who’s angry about lack of an answer it says FINAL ANALYISIS NOT FINAL ANSWER
Yeah, you can say that it's 69.2 percent, but if people didn't watch other people's videos, that is 8.8 x 10 to the power of MINUS 12. That is(near) one in a 8800000000000 chance of getting JUST the blaze rods. Including ender pearls, which are (again near) one in 5600000000000 chance, then yeah. And both of them together, are (near) 1 in 2000000000000000000000 chance of getting them.
7/10
I don’t trust Dream He’s cheating I hate him!
עדי קרימר
Πριν 5 ώρες
@Brandon Morehouse you know i never trust dream cuz i don't like him! Okay?. And yes? He did destroyed the perfect world. making happy. walking adventure. And look what dream done to Minecraft! Cuz dream making fighting with his friends. He went to kill his friends?. So? I don't hear him anymore.
Brandon Morehouse
Πριν 15 ώρες
@עדי קרימר So you’re saying he destroyed the perfect world of minecraft? Kind of like how humans destroyed the perfect world of earth? Including you and me?
עדי קרימר
Πριν 15 ώρες
@Brandon Morehouse why? You say so? Cuz i hate him? Minecraft is relaxing game and now! destroyed in the world! Look what dream he done to Minecraft!. he cheater!
Brandon Morehouse
Πριν 18 ώρες
@עדי קרימר And?
עדי קרימר
Πριν 18 ώρες
@Brandon Morehouse i must!!! Hate him!. his speedrun is all FAKE!
69%
I wish matpat was my math teacher
is p hacking hacking wile ur peeing?
Ohh well did you know in one of dreams speedrun when he placed the boats in mid air actually there were barriers and there were barriers in the other speedrun when he placed boats in the lava there were barriers because how can he place things in mid air I tried it to and do all his hacks and a failure so he’s fake speedrunning
Brandon Morehouse
Πριν ημέρα
That makes no sense, and i agree with your final statement. Your explanation just doesn’t work
did dream fake it? heres the time 23:29
Wait, did dream cheat or not?
I guess the 100 thingy option because if you take away the one zero each from sixty and hundred you can see that that's right. Yes I'm THIS bad at explaining I watched the video and I think I were wrong. I didn't really understand sooo. Have a great life
I have no idea what Matpat says every video I watch but that has yet to stop me from watching them
Matpat has really gone downhill.....
Man this is hella annoying. Just say he's wrong or shill for him goddamit
Anybody else noticed mr.beast😂
You can tell mat came to the conclusion he cheated but didn’t wanna say it cuz of the stans
The answer is... Nothing hahahaha
This is over a bunch of Minecraft pixels, a video game...
Bottom Text
Πριν 3 ημέρες
Yes because things that happen on the internet have no effect on the real world
Twitch Rivals did competitive minecraft bingo. it was great.
60 out of 100
I dont hate Dream and i do find some of his vids fun to watch, but i did knew that it wasnt a smart decision to fight against the Minecraft speedrun mod team. There have been alot of cheating investigations in the past with other games and the people who expose speedrunners for cheating take their job seriously, they are like detectives trying to figure out a murder investigation or a mystery. Doing things like using Audacity for checking things in the sounds of the recording, recreating speedruns with slow speed, checking every fricking pixel in the screen with Photoshop etc.
8:37 i think the first one , the one with flipping a coin ten times and getting heads 7 times 9:00 yaaaay
Why are there so many dislikes
Muhammad Soleh
Πριν 3 ημέρες
and probably because he has no conclusion
Commander_Chop_Stix YT
Πριν 3 ημέρες
Probably all the dream stans
100
0:12 wait mat are you there when mr beast is giving away like 25 ps5's
I think dream doesn’t fake his speedruns i think dream is super lucky
Gameslug
Πριν 16 ώρες
@StrikeYT I’m 90% sure there was another comment
StrikeYT
Πριν 2 ημέρες
@Gameslug and when did I say dream didn't cheat?
StrikeYT
Πριν 2 ημέρες
@Gameslug gosh I didn't expect a slug will be so mean
Muhammad Soleh
Πριν 3 ημέρες
he cheated. No more opinions, only facts
Gameslug
Πριν 3 ημέρες
Both of you idiots dream cheated. The data shows that he did.
I love how people dislike the video without watching it 🤣
Mr beast buy the store again
Those of y'all in the comments making fun of the fact how MatPat asked the question, but didn't exactly answer it, please reread the title. "A Final Analysis." Definition of Analysis- (n.) detailed examination of the elements or structure of something. Meaning an explanation or investigation, but not exactly the final answer. So basically you set yourself up by clicking the damn video.
StrikeYT
Πριν 3 ημέρες
Your really smart for a mouse
16:50 EXOTIC BUTTERS
_K I L L E R • Q U E E N_
Πριν 3 ημέρες
Eggsodic buhddersz
He did. End of story.
Gameslug
Πριν 3 ημέρες
Exactly
On any other channel I wouldn't point this out, but since its Game Theory and I know we like details around here, the exterior of that Tardis from 2:29 is from the 11/12th Doctor's tenure however the interior is from the 9/10th Doctor's run. Just saying!
I couldn’t care less if he cheated or not, no matter how you look at it, Dream is still one the best Minecraft players to exist.
StrikeYT
Πριν 2 ημέρες
And just because He is good at PvP doesn't mean that his the best player in the world dream stan
Bottom Text
Πριν 3 ημέρες
This is about integrity. Also dream is average, notice how he never fights any actual pvpers? I could fight a below average player and look like a PvP god too.
Gameslug
Πριν 3 ημέρες
He is not the best Minecraft player. He is good at 1.16 pvp but not the best. He also has average building and redstone skills. Also he is nowhere near the top of 1.8 pvp
Leonard
Πριν 3 ημέρες
Yes, so good he has to cheat.
StrikeYT
Πριν 3 ημέρες
Technoblade: are you sure about that?
100 times and getting 60 heads
I'm pretty sure the answer was 1) You CAN'T have an answer especially given the fact both sides can't have conclusive evidence to prove Dream did or didn't cheat and that the experiment itself wasn't infallible so what MatPat had to work with was skewed one way or another. 2) Generally? Why are we speedrunning Minecraft??? Especially now that nether fortresses have become rarer since the recent nether update and that your ability to be fastest are decided by some factors are now up to luck and not skill. That's what I got from the video anyway.
Bottom Text
Πριν 3 ημέρες
Imagine being so lucky you could have won the lottery multiple times a day for your entire life but you waste all that luck on Minecraft.
As an Econometrics Major, I can confirm that this video is a great intro into how statistics can be applied to the real world, and I appreciate it being made
Conner McKinnon
Πριν 4 ημέρες
Sampling Bias, Law of Large Iterations, getting closer to the mean as you increase sample size, these are all fundamental truths to statistics, and you must take these things into consideration or you could end up falsely accusing someone. These numbers show that Dream 99.9999999% cheated - there is no 100%.